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Auspost CEO calls on employers to hire more young Muslims

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HC Online | 09 Oct 2015, 09:23 AM Agree 0
The head of Australia Post has called upon hiring managers to consider ‘social inclusion’ policies as a means of combating the lure of Islamic extremism.
  • Anon | 09 Oct 2015, 11:12 AM Agree 0
    What a joke. hiring more muslims is not going to combat Islamic extremism. People have choices in life and there are those who choose to become Islamic extremists whether they are employed or well educated or not. Look at Mohammed Atta one of terrorists from 9/11. His mother was a Dr and his father a Lawyer. he was well educated, born with a silver spoon in his mouth and very wealthy. He chose to become a terrorist so the CEO of Auspost is talking rubbish!
  • KOD | 09 Oct 2015, 11:35 AM Agree 0
    Why wait until young muslims commence work. Why not start by having them attend state schools like the majority of kids and not having them attend a madrass where the key learning is that "your are different" and not to trust the infidels. And what ever you do never become one.
    Schools. The great sausage factory that has served us so well in the past (and now bypassed by the Islamic community)where you go in one end a muslim, a jew, a catholic or whatever. And you come our one of us.

    Time to get real.
    No prize for guessing that Ahmed Fahour is a muslim and using a "murder" by a muslim to promote greater benefits for muslims.

    To hear our brave Labour leaders refer to the murder in Parramatta as "an incident" is clear evidence that there is a fear of losing votes or offending the muslim community for calling it what it is - a MURDER. It would appear even our leaders do not have courage anymore.

    If you want to know where we are heading then if you were listening you will have heard the significant change in language and direction from the British PM and Government about the negative impact of immigration upon social cohesion and a struggling infrastructure.
    • | 09 Oct 2015, 11:41 AM Agree 0
      100% agree with "KOD" - those muslim schools are the most terrible thing that can happen to our country - you are brilliant sir. They are a bubble within our society - they are a poisonous bubble however.
  • | 09 Oct 2015, 11:37 AM Agree 0
    Very powerful article - clearly he's a highly intelligent man.

    I still think that moderate islam are here to blame - they're sitting on the sideline. They need to be the voice - they need to explain to the west why those disfranchised young people are unhappy - why are they upset with the west - why they feel excluded and at the same time, they need to explain to those misguided young people that this is their country too... and this country is 100% better than those countries they keep trying support - we have 100% better freedom of speech and social justice and respect to human rights. in short, moderate islam need to speak out a lot more - they need to get involved and speak out to both sides and narrow the divide between the two.
    • Terry | 15 Oct 2015, 11:07 AM Agree 0
      No you're just stupid.
  • Terry | 09 Oct 2015, 12:35 PM Agree 0
    As KOD Said





    KOD | 09 Oct 2015, 11:35 AM Agree 0

    Why wait until young muslims commence work. Why not start by having them attend state schools like the majority of kids and not having them attend a madrass where the key learning is that "your are different" and not to trust the infidels. And what ever you do never become one.
    Schools. The great sausage factory that has served us so well in the past (and now bypassed by the Islamic community)where you go in one end a muslim, a jew, a catholic or whatever. And you come our one of us.

    Time to get real.
    No prize for guessing that Ahmed Fahour is a muslim and using a "murder" by a muslim to promote greater benefits for muslims.

    To hear our brave Labour leaders refer to the murder in Parramatta as "an incident" is clear evidence that there is a fear of losing votes or offending the muslim community for calling it what it is - a MURDER. It would appear even our leaders do not have courage anymore.

    If you want to know where we are heading then if you were listening you will have heard the significant change in language and direction from the British PM and Government about the negative impact of immigration upon social cohesion and a struggling infrastructure.
  • Embarrassed | 09 Oct 2015, 02:34 PM Agree 0
    Why attack a good idea?

    He's not suggesting its the answer in isolation is he?

    If it even helps a little, shouldn't we try it - in combination with other measures of course?

    I bet you're the same people who booed Adam Goodes "because of the way he plays the game" - yeah right...

    This guy's the CEO of Australia Post and may well be Muslim as well - both good reasons to listen to him I'd of thought.

    #casualracism
    • Embarrassed for Embarrassed | 15 Oct 2015, 11:09 AM Agree 0
      You can't attack a good idea when his idea is 'discriminate against other races and religions and blindly hire muslims' I'm fairly certain neither you nor he is very bright.
  • Linda | 12 Oct 2015, 11:31 AM Agree 0
    Chill, people and take the time to read what Ahmed Fahour said, rather than using this forum as a place to air prejudice against Muslims. Social exclusion on the basis of prejudice is a powerful motive for the alienated to engage in antisocial activity. Work is one of the social 'glues' that keeps our community intact. We HR professionals have an obligation to ensure that everyone, including Muslims, gets a fair chance at being recruited to our organisations on the merits of their CVs, rather than excluding them on the basis of ignorance, fear or prejudice.
  • | 12 Oct 2015, 12:12 PM Agree 0
    Perhaps you should change your byline to presumptuous rather than embarrassed. I too would be embarrassed if the only way I could justify my comments is to "group" people and then apply a simple recent comparison - probably so shallow that anything later than a couple of months ago would be forgotten by now.

    The comments are not meant to be limiting simply expanding upon the notion that you need strategies to correct unacceptable outcomes and perhaps starting earlier rather than later and acknowledging that the learning at school contribute to who we become are, I believe relevant. Perhaps you could add a suggestion rather that criticise or are you limited in that way.
  • | 12 Oct 2015, 02:05 PM Agree 0
    If Auspost is hiring more young muslims, would there be a possibility that some of them were terrorists or would-be terrorists? Anyone else realistically concerned about this?
  • Ash | 13 Oct 2015, 11:55 AM Agree 0
    While the idea reflect only one part of story what if we look at the way we educate these kids. Isolation cannot be removed just by employment but it needs to be tackled from in all areas, right from schooling as mentioned by one of the respondent. Why not nurture the aspect of they being part of larger society. Besides, the inclusion or exclusion happens not by society, it depends on how as an individual/ family would like to associate themselves with the society. If not so why should Aussi post CEO be a Muslim. Let us not have HR or organisations endorsing a community but let us have a healthy culture of employment that's the greatest strength of Australian society ( Equal opportunity Employer). Why are we not looking at the upbringing or a family value system which lays the foundation for any kid. Besides encourage the kids not only to be part of their own community but be part of a larger multicultural community. The taboo of reservation has ruined many societies which is well reflected in History hence as a responsible citizens let us treat this as one of the sad incident and look at larger acceptance of all communities in our own day to day lives.
  • Dayna | 14 Oct 2015, 11:52 AM Agree 0
    Very thought provoking. This is a wonderful idea, as is earlier intervention. All these efforts will reduce radicalization and also offer better lives and opportunities to the Muslim community and Australia as a whole. As a member of HR we can have a direct influence on this In our recruitment efforts and discussions with management, it's great to think we could affect change in this way.
    • Dayna 2 | 15 Oct 2015, 11:11 AM Agree 0
      Good, if you discount the fact its discrimination against other races and religions then yeah its a great idea. No wonder his company is dying, its full of stupid ideas that were only half thought out, Like e-mail boxes and post office cards. Dumbest Ideas Ever.
  • | 14 Oct 2015, 06:01 PM Agree 0
    How exactly would you identify Muslims without breaking Anti Discrimination Laws? They're not all wearing a burka.

    Well intentioned but seems completely impractical.
    • Kellin | 15 Oct 2015, 11:12 AM Agree 0
      Its sheer stupidity coming from a muslim trying to favour his own group. What he proposes is racial and religious discrimination, its disgusting.
  • Still Learning | 16 Oct 2015, 12:04 PM Agree 0
    We have become a society of discrimination whether we realise it, accept it or not and in truth have been there for a very long time. There are jobs specifically for women, aboriginals and now Muslims.
    Our own fears are tapped into by the media and what we see on the nightly news - good old 'divide and conquer'. Those fears show in how we relate to people who are 'different'. There are good women, good aboriginals, good homosexuals and good Muslims. Society in general and each business culture is where the rubber hits the road.
    I agree that Muslims must be integrated into our 'normal' education system so all students can see that they are normal people too. What we do in our businesses is critical here as we are the followup process. Where do 'we' get educated about aboriginality or the Muslim faith? How is HR supported to know how to appropriately handle aboriginal or Muslim applicants taking into account their belief systems? Who teaches us? Is it not time for L&D to include this type of training especially in businesses that already have aboriginal or Muslim employees?
    I am a female mature-aged student of HR who has worked in businesses for many years and have also seen discrimination on many levels. I am pleased to say that discrimination has reduced towards women and aboriginals. The focus has now changed to 'another presumed evil' which after we learn how to cope with it, work with it and handle it, will have its place taken by yet another. In the 50s it was Italians and Greeks.
    We always find a way, so being aggressive towards any group or individual is not the answer. Please put forward reasonable suggestions and lets get our butts into gear together, maybe in a HR conference specifically to discuss these issues.
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